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==== The objective of our next real experiment was to find out more about 'hair ice' and the fungus that helps it form ====
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Here is the [https://www.evernote.com/shard/s586/sh/29e2e363-288e-a009-a2ef-579bfb1dccba/cae224bb7dd94f7c29abd45361ecd2f5 Evernote protocol] we put together...
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It was fun to see the hair ice (or something like it) just grow in our freezer (from a wet stick in a plastic zip bag).  We still have more sticks from Yngvar's colleague. However, we got samples to amplify by PCR from a sort of goo that grew on the stick, not from the ice itself.
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In the end the sequence from this culture gave ''Exidia thuretiana'' as its strongest sequence hit - with 105 bp identical
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?? something close to the expected fungus ''Exidiopsis effusa''
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this still needs to be repeated.
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==== A third objective for our experiments was to determine more about species that are not well known. ====
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We got one from Yngvar's colleague that was predicted not to be in Genbank yet.
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We also tried some wild mycomycetes cultures.
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We have more more to learn and do!  but the Q5 enzyme is already very expensive for our community lab!
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(We need high fidelity polymerase however, or the few key base changes that might occur with ordinary Taq would not provide reliable IDs...)
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Yngvar really wants to get into the metagenomics as in OpenFoodRepo DNA...
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We need to figure out some way to do this again.

Revision as of 15:17, 6 February 2023

Introduction

This is a part of the project Fun_with_fungi. It is about experiments related to mycelial biodiversity.

People

Contact and lead: Yngvar

Participants: Rachel, other Hackuarium members, maybe *you*?

Objective:

To see whether species determination by simple PCR then sequencing, as we have already done for bacteria (with the universal 16S primers), will be possible.

Yngvar found some references describing protocols with ribosomal DNA 'internal transcribed spacer' (ITS) sequences that can be used as 'bar-coding' primers for fungus, in particular, a protocol from the Kennedy Lab by L. Higgins (2012).

Unfortunately, this reference did not have the actual primer sequences in it, although it had a great overview image of the ribosomal DNA, which we reproduce roughly here:

ITS1**>

<18S rDNA | 1st Internal Transcribed Spacer | 5.8S rDNA | 2nd Internal Transcribed Spacer | 28S rDNA>

<**ITS4

To note, ribosomal genes come in big repeated clusters in most organisms, and this is the general layout of one of the standard repeats.

When we got down to the sequence level, in various references, we realised that some published sequences were not correctly transcribed, or at least, the ITS1 primer was missing a T in a few of the references (even in a PCR Protocol book from Cold Spring Harbor, put out in 1990).

However, the following two primers, in the end, were also in several publications (and fit better by sequence comparisons than without the extra T), and are the ones we used:

ITS 1 5'TCCGTAGGTGAACCTTGCGG and

ITS 4 5'TCCTCCGCTTATTGATATGC

These are generally as published here (open access), thanks to Z. Haque, et al... =)

(As indicated in the schematic above, the ITS1 sequence come from within the 18S rDNA sequence, while the ITS4 is from the 28S rDNA sequence.

The first test of these primers was performed in our lab on February 3 2022, and we made an evernote protocol with detailsabout comparing fresh, freeze/thawed and simple 'touch with a toothpick' comparisons.

For one mycelia type, shiitake, all three reactions worked well, for another, only after the freeze-thaw was good, for instance. Ultimately we got sequences for all three samples, as shown below:


>BWA541_12485414_12485414

AGAATCCTAATGGGAAGTTGTTGCTGGCCTCTAGGGGCATGTGCACGCTTCACTAGTCTTTCAACCACCTGTGAACTTTT

GATAGATCTGTGAAGTCGTCTCTCAAGTCGTTAGACTTGGTTTGCTGGGATGTAAACGTCTCGGTGTGACTACGCAGTCT

ATTTACTTATAACACCCCAAATGTATGTCTACGAATGTCATTTAAAGGGCCTTGTGCCTATAAACCATAATACAACTTTC

AACAACGGATCTCTTGGCTCTCGCATCGATGAAGAACGCAGCGAAATGCGATAAGTAATGTGAATTGCAGAATTCAGTGA

ATCATCGAATCTTTGAACGCACCTTGCGCCCCTTGGTATTCCGAGGGGCATGCCTGTTTGAGTGTCATTAAATTCTCAAA

CTCACTCTGGTTTTTCCAATTGTGATGTTTGGATTGTTGGGGGCTGCTGGCCTTGACAGGTCGGCTCCTCTTAAATGCAT

TAGCAGGACTTCTCATTGCCTCTGCGCATGATGTGATAATTATCACTCATCAATAGCACGCATGAATAGAGTTTGGCTCT

CTAACCGTCCGCAAGGACAATTTGACAATTTGACCTCAAATCAGGTAGGACTACCCGCTGAACTTAAGCATATCAATAAG

CC

KP mycelia and

yes! Pleurotus eryngii

identical 627bp


>BWA542_12485421_12485421

AATTAAGATGGGCCTTTGCTAGTTTTCTAGCGAATGGTTCATTCTTTTTTACTGTGAACTGTTTTAATTTTTCAGCGTCT

GAGGAATGTCTTTTAGCCATAGGGATAGGCTACTAGAATGTTAACCGAGCTGAAAGTCAGGCTTAGGCCTGGTATCCTAT

TAATTATTTACCAAAAGAATTCAGTATTATAATTGTAACATAAGCGTAAAAAACTTATAAAACAACTTTTAACAACGGAT

CTCTTGGTTCTCGCATCGATGAAGAACGTAGCAAAGTGCGATAACTAGTGTGAATTGCATATTCAGTGAATCATCGAGTC

TTTGAACGCAACTTGCGCTCAATGGTATTCCATTGAGCACGCCTGTTTCAGTATCAAAAACACCCCACATTCATAATTTT

GTTGTGAATGGAATTGAGAGTTTCGGCTTTATTGCTGAATTCTTTAAAATTATTAGGCCTGAACTATTGTTCTTTCTGCC

TGAACATTTTTTTAATATAAAGGAATGCTCTAGTAAAAAGACTATCTCTGGGGCCTCCCAAATAAATCATTCTTAAATTT

GATCTGAAATCAGGCGGGATTACCCGCTGAACTTAAGCATATCATAAGA

PB mold thing?

Mucor hiemalis?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/agricultural-and-biological-sciences/mucor-hiemalis

uncultured fungus

Beauveria bassiana

??

609bp identity

can come with parasite bug (also balloons - as seen!)


>BWA543_12485438_12485438

TCCTCCTCCGATTTCTATTCATCCACCTGTGCACTTTTTGTAGGAGTTCTTTCATCGGGTTTTTGAAGGTGCTCATTATG

AGTTACTTGAAAAGACTAGTTGACAAGGCTTCTATGTTCTTATAAACCATCGAAGTATGTTATAGAATGATCTCGTTATT

GGGACTTTATTGACCCTTTAAACTTAATACAACTTTCAGCAACGGATCTCTTGGCTCTCCCATCGATGAAGAACGCAGCG

AAATGCGATAAGTAATGTGAATTGCAGAATTCAGTGAATCATCGAATCTTTGAACGCACCTTGCGCCCTCTGGTATTCCG

GAGGGCATGCCTGTTTGAGTGTCATTAAATTCTCAACTTTATAAGTTTTTTACTTATTAAAGC

only 381/383 identity

Lentinula edodes

and that is Shiitake!!

yay!

The objective of our next real experiment was to find out more about 'hair ice' and the fungus that helps it form

Here is the Evernote protocol we put together...

It was fun to see the hair ice (or something like it) just grow in our freezer (from a wet stick in a plastic zip bag). We still have more sticks from Yngvar's colleague. However, we got samples to amplify by PCR from a sort of goo that grew on the stick, not from the ice itself.

In the end the sequence from this culture gave Exidia thuretiana as its strongest sequence hit - with 105 bp identical

?? something close to the expected fungus Exidiopsis effusa

this still needs to be repeated.

A third objective for our experiments was to determine more about species that are not well known.

We got one from Yngvar's colleague that was predicted not to be in Genbank yet.

We also tried some wild mycomycetes cultures.

We have more more to learn and do! but the Q5 enzyme is already very expensive for our community lab!

(We need high fidelity polymerase however, or the few key base changes that might occur with ordinary Taq would not provide reliable IDs...)

Yngvar really wants to get into the metagenomics as in OpenFoodRepo DNA...

We need to figure out some way to do this again.